Thank you for your observations and questions.

Like you we want only the best for Campbell County and the camporee. That is why we have been planning together now for many years.

See if my information below helps answer your questions and or observations.

1.    The Camporee targeted age group for activities and main stage programing is ages 10-16.

2.    Historically the total participant numbers break down about this way.
1/3.   Ages 1-12. ( ages below 9 are children of adult staff )
1/3.   Ages 13-17.
1/3.   Ages 18 plus.

3.      Hotels are used by event concessions staff , exhibitors , event organizers , local club staff who are older - ages 55 plus , event contractors , event college student staff workers , out of town communication staff from around the world  , international visitors , medical & saftey staff , event insurance personnel , corporate sponsors , main stage speakers & program presenters , etc.

4.     Medical needs overview for the 6 days the camporee is in town with about 55,000 participants from over 100 countries - August 5-11 , 2024 - looks like this.

Most medical needs will be addressed on the Cam-Plex property with about 150 camporee medical staff who are directed by experienced camporee medical administration staff.

5.     Any questions about camporee please feel free to call my cell number and the next time I am in town can I take you out to eat with some of my camporee staff?

All my best !

Pastor Ron W
International Camporee Exective Director

Greetings Pastor Ron:

Thank you for the response!

I will share this information, although it does little to address the fact that they have been rationing our water in the summertime in Gillette since 2007, so where do we suddenly get enough water for an additional 55000+ individuals per day for a week or more.

If you were trying to sell this to Gillette citizens and to the surrounding communities, instead of just to the leadership, what else would you want me to share?

One of your supporters said there would be 2000 instances of increased traffic per day, but I was unsure if he really meant 2000 people which in buses would be much less of an impact, so I did not mention that.  Historically, how much of an increase in vehicle traffic?

Also, for the month during with the auxiliary personnel are here, how many people are we expecting for that longer period of time?  Also, which is it, we will be greatly impacted for one week or for two?

Thanks so much.
--Sara Painter

Good Sunday morning to you Sara

So sorry to bother you.

Thank you for sending me your 9-19-2022 email blast that went out at 9:25 am BEFORE i answered your important questions later that same Friday.

If i may i would like to share a few thoughts.

Some of the detailed information i sent you this past Friday , August 19 , 2022 at 3:12 pm and 9:54 pm is not included in your August 19 , 2022 at 9:25 am email blast about the camporee.

Are you planing to send out a revised email blast from you about the camporee this weekend ?

No pressure from me for you to send out a revised camporee email blast with the new camporee details i gave you on Friday , August 19 , 2022 at 3:12 pm and 9:54 pm. but i would like to know your camporee communication plans to correct some of the August 19 , 9:25 am camporee email blast information.

Thank you for your consideration.

Have a good Sunday.
pr
international camporee
exective director.
August 5-11, 2024,

Good Sunday morning to you, Pastor Ron.

I almost answered your last email - you did not give me more info than I wanted, and in fact not as much as I wanted, but I appreciated your responses at all and wanted to let you have the last word.

I was considering sending new information when I asked you the specific questions, but I didn't feel that the responses (although complete and detailed) fully addressed my questions about (for example) how many vehicles to expect on the roads (besides 70 buses) which is a major concern for our community.  How many support personnel would be here for two weeks prior to and two weeks after the event itself.  The impact of water usage for 55,000+ people would be significant for one day in a city that rations water in the summer months, so for a week is not minimal.  I understand your job is to spin it to make it look like an impactless event except for the groceries and gas.  Have no interest in beating you over the head about it.

"i would like to know your camporee communication plans to correct"  What did you think needed to be corrected?

I didn't think the breakdown in ages was that different from what went out on 8-19-2022, or that there was new or specific information that would warrant a new letter.

I have asked for a copy of the impact study that was done prior to deciding to bring the International Camporee to Gillette and Campbell County, and I figured when I had that information (if a study was not done, that is important to know as well), if a new letter was warranted, I would write one then adding in some of the information you provided as well.

Incidentally, an earlier article by the local news paper said it would be a two week event.  The officials promoting the event say take a two week vacation.  Why are they saying take two weeks if the impact is limited to a 6 day event?  We have well-documented reasons to not trust our city and county leadership.  Giving honest answers would go a long way, but instead they just don't have the details.  No one has the details.

I have truly appreciated your correspondences.  Thank you so much, and God Bless.
--Sara Painter

PS

So sorry I forgot to mention.  The Executive Director of the Campbell County Convention and Visitors Bureau stated that the attendees were ages 5-11.  It took some angling at her before she admitted teenagers might be in the group.  She then stated that the organization told her that if there were (for example) 30,000 children, there would be 30,000 adults.  That is in a recorded phone call if it comes down to a dispute of the facts of what she said.

She was an incredibly intelligent, well-spoken, forthright individual and it was a pleasure speaking with her.  But don't you question the intelligence when they shrug their shoulders and say, Gee, of course we don't have the staffing necessary, but we'll get through it.

After figuring out that your attendance will be more like 60,000 based on historical growth, I can only wonder if you all know it will be 60,000+ and are minimizing it by saying 55,000+.  Like it being a 2 week event now being minimized to a 1 week event.  As if the impact will be limited to the time the group is here.

Nothing riles me up more than public lies.  Just tell us the truth so we know what we'll be dealing with.  Knowing is half the battle.

My attempt to answer your specific follow up questions as outlined in todays Sunday , August 21 , 10:57 am email to me.

1.     Camporee Vehicle Question :
A.   " how many vehicles are expected on the roads " ?

2.     Camporee Vehicle Traffic / Set Up Week / July 28 - August 4 , 2024. ( 7 days not 14 days as you presented ).
A.    At this time there is plans to have under 150 people in Gillitte , Wyoming for two weeks before the camporee begins 6 am Monday , August 5 , 2022. I am not sure where you got the idea that there will be thousands of camporee people in Gillitte Wyoming two weeks before camporee set up week , July 28 - August 4 , 2022. I am sorry you found this incorrect information somewhere. Thank you for asking me about the camporee set up plans. Please correct this two week set up miss information with everyone you communicate with. Thank you for your help.

3.     More Set Up Week information that you may value - Set Up Week ( that is one week ) will be run with adult volinteer staff ( and there children / youth - contractors - and adult camp staff , etc. from Sunday , July 28 to Sunday , August 4 , 2024. ( 7 days ). As for a vehicle estimate number  I suggest this ; I gave you the estimated set up people numbers in one of the two Friday , August 19 , 2022 emails two days ago. You can estimate or guess the number of vehicles needed to move these people numbers as easy as me. I do not have a specific vehicle number.

4.   Camporee Vehicle Traffic - What is Camporee Week ( that is 6 days ) - Monday , August 5-11 , 2024 vehicle numbers.
A.     Once again I have no specific vehicle numbers to give you about camporee week ( 6 days ) but I did go into great detail about how camporee week runs and gave you a overview about traffic when a large event comes to my or any town in the world. LOL . Every time I go to a large event like the Indy 500 or a Concert or Fair I have to be patient with the added tragic.
B.     Please look at my two Friday , August 19 , 2022 emails to see my vehicle traffic over overview thoughts.
C.     We can talk more about vehicle traffic during different weeks when we meet if you wish.

4.    Camporee Vehicle Traffic will be 98% gone by Sunday noon August 11 , 2024.
A.     As I pointed out in my Friday , August 19 , 2022 two emails ; Pathfinders start to drive away from camporee in mass on Saturday night ( see specific Cam-Plex campground exit time estimated in Friday’s email ) - all night - August 10 , 2024 until 98% of them will be gone by 12 noon on Sunday , August 11 , 2024. ( if not before )

5.     Camporee Vehicle Traffic / Take down after camporee is over dates are August 11-14 or 11-16 , 2024.
A.   The camporee city comes down very fast. I am not sure who told you it takes 2 weeks to take down the camporee ? It only takes 3 to 5 days max. I hope this is helpful ?

I have to run now - family time today - taking my grand son fishing - yea !

You have a good Sunday also .